its been a little over 2 years since i left the watchtower.
in that time the magazines have been cut, the birth of jwtv, jw-org.
carts for preaching, removed district overseers, cut assemblies, demand all the money from the congregations, stop construction and layoff bethelites, change the format of the tmschool .
StarTrekAngel
Wishfully thinking here... I do believe what you say, but I wish there was a way to show JWs the evidence that this is what goes on
Even if there was evidence, the members would just say, "OH MY" and life would continue like nothing happen. Like the old song use to say, "Keep Your Eyes on the Prize"
I'm actually am getting very pessimistic about waking them up.
its been a little over 2 years since i left the watchtower.
in that time the magazines have been cut, the birth of jwtv, jw-org.
carts for preaching, removed district overseers, cut assemblies, demand all the money from the congregations, stop construction and layoff bethelites, change the format of the tmschool .
J.A., you've left in exciting times.
Tell me about it, it’s been one freaking ride. The good thing though is that all the changes have made my decision a lot, lot easier. I have never doubted leaving because of all the crazy things they started doing right as soon as I left. They have actually help me leave the WT without any reservations.
Expect AWAKE to go away or go 100% digital, maybe WATCHTOWER too. Conventions will be smaller and crammed into Assembly Halls way more than before. Expect Friday sessions to end (if they haven't already).
I agree with your thoughts.
Maybe they will start charging $3 to park a car at Assembly Halls
They are already doing that where I live except it’s $7 per car. They did have some kind of fight because first they picked up the money at the Kingdom hall then when the friends went to the assembly, no one was asking for the parking tickets. So what happen to all the money they picked up at the Khall??????
its been a little over 2 years since i left the watchtower.
in that time the magazines have been cut, the birth of jwtv, jw-org.
carts for preaching, removed district overseers, cut assemblies, demand all the money from the congregations, stop construction and layoff bethelites, change the format of the tmschool .
How did you justify that to yourself? I think that would have woke me up right away.
It was for Jehovah!!!!!
its been a little over 2 years since i left the watchtower.
in that time the magazines have been cut, the birth of jwtv, jw-org.
carts for preaching, removed district overseers, cut assemblies, demand all the money from the congregations, stop construction and layoff bethelites, change the format of the tmschool .
StarTrekAngel
Ever wondered where the "cost" of an assembly comes from
I haven't read the post, but when I was an elder, I was in charge of accounting at the assemblies. Right before the elder's meeting after the assembly, I would get together with the assembly overseer and the CO and we always had more than enough money. But we would manipulate the wording to make it seem we were short. One time we had over $30,000 and the assembly overseer said; "if we tell the friends we've gotten this much, they will stop contributing" So we picked a number a few hundred dollars below actually costs and say those famous words; "Friends, we know you will do the right thing"
its been a little over 2 years since i left the watchtower.
in that time the magazines have been cut, the birth of jwtv, jw-org.
carts for preaching, removed district overseers, cut assemblies, demand all the money from the congregations, stop construction and layoff bethelites, change the format of the tmschool .
StarTrekAngel
We will eventually see TV commercials and potentially full blown hollywood style movies, like "Fireproof" or "Heaven is for real"
You know I thought about that, maybe even have some famous JW as a spokesperson Like Coco Rocha.
its been a little over 2 years since i left the watchtower.
in that time the magazines have been cut, the birth of jwtv, jw-org.
carts for preaching, removed district overseers, cut assemblies, demand all the money from the congregations, stop construction and layoff bethelites, change the format of the tmschool .
tim3l0rd
I definitely see them suggesting a per publisher rate that the congregations should donate to WT each month similar to what they do for assemblies.
I'm not familiar with that, but if the rate is $10 per publisher, they really can't enforce it can they? This is actually news to me.
Heck, I didn't know that either.StarTrekAngel
the automatic recurrent doanation on jw-org already exists.
steve2
I have a hunch - and nothing to base it on - that the annual worldwide report on JWs, currently published in the JW Yearbook, will be changed in some way - or stopped altogether within the next 5 to 8 years
its been a little over 2 years since i left the watchtower.
in that time the magazines have been cut, the birth of jwtv, jw-org.
carts for preaching, removed district overseers, cut assemblies, demand all the money from the congregations, stop construction and layoff bethelites, change the format of the tmschool .
It’s been a little over 2 years since I left the Watchtower. In that time the magazines have been cut, the birth of JWTV, JW-ORG. – Carts for preaching, removed District Overseers, Cut assemblies, demand all the money from the congregations, stop construction and layoff bethelites, change the format of the TMSchool
What are we going to see in the next two years?
They are lousy at investing in the stock market, so I say they are going to get in the housing real-estate market.
They have to come up with new ways of making money.
well i just got off the phone with mother (thankfully she has no part in the shunning policy) and she thinks the changes are "marverless" this i would imagine is the general consensus of most hardcore rank and file!
she is even investing in a roku device so she can watch more indoctrination programming.
to be honest i wouldn't even try make her think, because she has far to much invested in the cult.
I finally figured that out. In the past year I've have 8 jw friends die and they died happy and peaceful believing they would wake up soon.
The family is also very happy they are going to see them soon in the paradise. They never had any conflicts in the organization.
That's just the way it's going to be. Most jws are very happy in the organization and will stay there till they die. No child abuse, no new light, no blood policy or shunning will cause them to leave. And they will put up with all the meetings and field service and conventions.
There's really very little we can do to help them get out of the cult.
in the aftermath of this year's annual meeting and the recent tremors of cash shortfalls within the organization, i began thinking "what could they do next to bring in more $$$.".
many here have speculated that we're seeing incremental moves toward "tithing" (of course they would never call it that).
a recent thread (can't find it right now) highlighted that they recently raised the "suggested per publisher donation" at the circuit assembly significantly (tripled it?)..
Speculation on future donation arrangements
deaf aotearoa flooded with complaints about jehovah's witness churchkashka tunstalllast updated 15:22, october 6 2015deaf aotearoa has asked the jehovah's witness church to respond to claims of a deaf information database.new zealand's deaf community is fed up with unsolicited house calls, claiming the jehovah's witness church is targeting deaf households.deaf aotearoa has received multiple complaints from around the country and says church members visited certain homes because they were aware a deaf person lived there.
the organisation released a statement on monday, saying it was looking into the possibility the church holds a database listing the details of members of the deaf community.jehovah witness spokesman rod spinks said there was no such database and deaf people were not being targeted.the deaf aotearoa statement was posted on the group's facebook page, and received a flood of comments from frustrated people.one woman said a group of jehovah's witnesses had come to her house and asked "for the deaf person who lives here.
" she said they refused to explain how they had her details and didn't visit her neighbours.another said church members had turned up at her work and asked for her by name.hamilton man royce flynn said he had been visited six times over the last nine months, despite repeatedly saying he was uninterested in the house calls.he said the church members were always able to sign and also brought deaf people along, which lead him to believe he was being singled out.flynn said contacted local police, who told him it was a privacy issue and referred him on to the office of the privacy commissioner.he said he had been been in contact with local labour member of parliament sue moroney.deaf aotearoa acting chief executive jill dean said complaints about the church were a recurring issue.
